The Buddha’s silence on atta = own (hence independent) being

 

often and wrongly, though conveniently translated into English as SELF

 

 

On another occasion the wanderer Vacchagotta went to the Blessed and exchanged greetings with him.

Then he asked: “How is it, Master Gotama, does atta exist?”

When this was said, the Blessed was silent.

“How is it, then, Master Gotama, does atta not exist?”

And for a second time the Blessed One was silent.

Then the wanderer Vacchagotta got up from his seat and went away.

 

Now after he had gone the venerable Ananda asked the Blessed One:

“Lord, how is it that when the Blessed One was questioned he did not answer?”

“If, when I was asked ‘Does atta exist?’ I had answered ‘atta exists,’ that would have been the belief of those who hold the theory of eternalism. And if, when I was asked ‘Does atta not exist?’ I had answered ‘atta does not exist,’ that would have been the belief of those who hold the theory of annihilationism.

Again, if, when he asked ‘Does atta exist?’ I had answered ‘atta exists’, would that have been in conformity with my knowledge that all things are not-atta? And if, when asked ‘Does atta not exist?’ I had answered ‘atta does not exist,’ then confused as he already is, Ananda, the wanderer Vacchagotta would have become still more confused, assuming ‘Surely then I had a atta before and now have none’.”   S 44:10

 

Note how you, the reader, are being set up. Vacchagotta should have first asked: “Master Gotama, what do you mean when you use the word (actually metaphor) atta ?” (In short, “Define your term of reference (hence premise)!”)

Since the Buddha did not once during his 40+ years of teaching define the meaning of the word (i.e. metaphor) atta, the above discussion is spurious, i.e. Buddhist ‘leading’ rhetoric.

 

 

The Buddha further on Atta

 

See if you can uncover the flaky reasoning derived from a assumptions that are ‘un-apprehendable as true

 

“Bhikkhus, the possession that one might possess (OWN!!, my insertion) that were permanent, everlasting* ….do you see such a possession?”

“No, Lord.”

“The atta-theory clinging whereby one might cling that would never arouse sorrow and ... despair* (i.e. distress) in him who clung thereby; do you see any such atta-theory clinging?"

"No, Lord.”

“The view as support that one might take as support that would never arouse sorrow and ... despair in him who took it as support; do you see any such view as support?"

“No, Lord”

“Bhikkhus, there being atta, would there be atta’s property?”

 “Yes, Lord.”

 “And there being atta’s property, would there be atta?”

 “Yes, Lord.”

"Bhikkhus, atta and atta’s property being un-apprehendable as true and established, then would not this view ‘This is the world, this the atta; after death I shall be permanent, everlasting, eternal, not subject to change, I shall endure as long as eternity’ be the pure perfection of a fool's idea?”

“How could it not be, Lord? It would be the pure perfection of idea.” M.22

 

 

The following clip is of extreme importance since it provides the bit missing from the notion of sunyáta (i.e. emptiness) in the Heart Sutra, namely ‘empty of atta and atta’s property’.

 

“ ‘Empty world, empty world’ is said Lord; in what way is ‘empty world’ said?”

“It is because of what is empty of atta and atta’s property* that ‘empty world’ is said, Ananda. And what is empty of atta and atta’s property? The eye ... forms ... eye-consciousness … eye‑contactany feeling ... born of eye-contact … The ear, etc.... The nose, etc.... The tongue, etc.... The body, etc.... The mind, etc … any feeling whether pleasant, painful or neither-painful-nor‑pleasant born of mind-contact is empty of atta and atta’s property.” S. 35 : 85

 

*… ‘Permanent, everlasting and (or, consequently) free (elsewhere independent) and free from sorrow and despair’ (= distress, i.e.  dukkha) are assumed by the Buddha to be prime qualities of the atta (i.e. of a true self or own being). The assumptions are ‘un-apprehendable as true’. In fact, an atta (or self) happens as a momentary reality and always provides ecstatic rapture, i.e. the Eureka experience (i.e. samma-sambodhi).

 

The Heart Sutra

Atta’s property

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